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Joystick to Midi?

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Robotkid
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:21 pm Reply with quote
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Hey gang,

What apps are people using for generating midi data with their PC joysticks these days?

I've got some bad ideas I want to mess with...heh heh heh.

Thanks,

-Robotkid

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Jaymis
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:51 pm Reply with quote
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I've previously used Hubi's Midi Joystick which does what it says it does. I've always thought having someone geeking it on stage with a big joystick could look really cool, but never actually seen anyone go there. Hmm.
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Robotkid
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:49 am Reply with quote
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Thanks!

I shall now commence geeking! Wink

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PeterKirn
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:09 pm Reply with quote
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FL Studio has the only integrated support for joysticks I've seen.

Lately, I've been using the hui object in Max/MSP which supports just about anything USB. That's a nice way of doing things, because you can scale / reassign to anything you want. I think there may be a similar object in Pd, but I haven't tried it.

I have a little wireless Logitech gamepad (PS2 ripoff) which is handy to have around. Haven't done anything terribly useful with it just yet -- that comes when I build a Flash game for it!
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cebec
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:02 pm Reply with quote
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this topic just came up on the Nord Modular mailing-list. here's what someone found:

http://vellocet.com/software/VMIDIJoY.html

the Hubi one was mentioned, as well.

i think i'm forgetting another one, though...
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PeterKirn
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:12 pm Reply with quote
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Oh, that's using an actual joystick port, though, for older computer joysticks. I was assuming USB.

The other major software solution for doing this on the Mac side is junXion from STEIM:

http://www.steim.org/steim/junxion_v2.html

. . . which also supports OSC output.

Though, again, any app that supports HUI USB devices (like game controllers, keyboards, etc.) can deal with the data as-is. It depends on what you're trying to use it with.
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cebec
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:04 pm Reply with quote
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here's the other one i was thinking of:

http://www.soundtower.com/synth/midijoys.htm
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PeterKirn
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:14 pm Reply with quote
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Oooh, cool. And that should work nicely with PCs with joystick ports. (Plus, there are still Mac adapters to be found.)

I don't see why someone couldn't write new basic drivers for inputs, either; really shouldn't be that hard. Might make for a good project for learning CoreMIDI since there isn't a simple Mac driver. On the PC, there seem to be a couple of alternatives.

Do let us know which of these actually, you know, work right.
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PeterKirn
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:34 pm Reply with quote
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I mean "hi" not "HUI" -- hi = Human Interface for USB, HUI is the control surface from Mackie. Darned acronyms.

Anyway, Max users, type hi into a patcher and see what happens. Pd users do in fact have a solution, which I'm going to try out:

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/hid.html

And there are a number of useful solutions, from rotating OpenGL 3D space to controlling X/Y synth parameters with force feedback. Wink

I think getting the force feedback end in is absolutely essential. Any of these PC drivers do that?
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Yasha
Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:48 am Reply with quote
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Another HID (human interface device)-to-MIDI application for OS X is arj.MultiControl: http://www.hf.uio.no/imv/forskning/forskningsprosjekter/musicalgestures/resources/multicontrol/index.html.

It's a freeware Max/MSP standalone application, developed for the Musical Gestures Project, that can output MIDI and/or OSC data.

-- Yasha
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emulatorxone
Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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http://www.fireballtrailers.com/rejoice/

"Rejoice turns your Joystick or P5 Glove into a MIDI controller."

Nice because it works well this all sorts of game joysticks, PLUS the P5 Glove (which is completely wonky, but fun).

-K-

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landfill
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:25 am Reply with quote
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This is great! I just mapped a load of the buttons from my Logitech Wingman, un-used for years, using Rejoice.

Live beatslicing with a joystick is ridiculously fun. Very Happy
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midipixel
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:44 am Reply with quote
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Thanks for all this info guys. I'll give rejoice a try when I find the time. Never had imagined ths possibility of controling MIDI through a joystick. Seems great! Smile

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Tonmeister
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:52 pm Reply with quote
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I'm using ControllerMate

http://orderedbytes.com/controllermate/

to send keyboard commands to Logic and Reason from an old USB Gravis controller, a second USB keyboard and a second USB mouse. Very handy for recording, I'm trying to figure out how it will be used in a live setting.

The basic app is free to try out. It was $10 to enable more commands to be programmed. It works fine in trial mode for testing stuff out with only a few commands and I was able to test my devices before buying it. Anyone on OS X should check it out. I bought it, works great. The developer just released a beta of version 4 as well.
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PeterKirn
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 8:51 pm Reply with quote
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Wow, that's a pretty sweet little app! How much control does it give you over the messages you send out? Guess you can send keystrokes. Have to check it out.

For Griffin stuff, you might be able to use this:
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/proxi/

But neither this nor ControllerMate could send MIDI, as far as I know.

See also today's post on command-line MIDI utilities, several of which might be useful for this project:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/05/30/free-midi-command-line-utilities-for-windows-unix-mac-linux/
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