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| virgil990 |
 Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:04 pm |
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Yeah, so that's pretty much it  Arrived this morning and I thought you guys would be interested to know. If you've got one on pre-order it may be arriving sooner than you think. Never known NI to be "early" but I have to say I'm glad they were. I don't know how much time I'll have to trouble shoot this thing right away but I'd be happy to answer any basic questions anyone might have. I'm still in awe that NI was early 
Cheers,
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| virgil990 |
| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:43 pm |
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Just wanted to add a little update here with some tips. I finally got this thing up and running fairly flawlessly after a couple hours of tinkering. I can't really blame NI for this as most new products have problems and this thing is orchestrating 13 individual instruments so it's understandable. Some of these in the beginning may seem like no brainers but I missed them and if you have a large number of NI instruments it's easy to leave something out. Here we go...
Installation Tips
1. Make sure you have all of your instruments updated to the latest version before installing Kore. I'm using Komplete 3 and while some of the instruments loaded properly in Kore before updating others didn't. A dialogue will pop up if you've installed Kontakt 2.1 (which just came out last week I think) but it doesn't seem to effect the loading into Kore.
2. Further, if you have previous versions of NI instruments installed alongside newer ones this can cause confusion. I had B4 and Guitar Rig installed as well as their second versions and this caused an amazing amount of confusion within Kore. So only one version, the newest one.
3. Open all instruments outside of Kore and make sure all sample library paths are correct. When you are loading a Kore sound with 4 different instruments it's a pain in the ass to have to search for samples or have of the instruments simply not load at all.
General Observations (The Good before some of the Bad)
1. This thing is amazing. I can't ever imagine using the individual instruments alone again. The control is everything NI says it is, it's fast, it's easy, and incredibly responsive. The muti-instrument sounds and effects are phenomenal, enormous soundscapes, load quickly, and really seem to optimize computer resouces.
2. Around 135 new Kore Instruments Presets amd 40 new Kore Effects Presets
3. The knobs are amazingly sensitive. So much so that I found myself wondering if I actually had to touch them to get them to light up (Seriously though, they are sensitive.) I think that their may be a bug here as well. I've noticed that individual knobs will light up a sporadic moments without me touching them. This seems to have calmed since I've bee working with the controller and lowering the sensitivity on the knobs doesn't hurt either.
4. Loss of "Kore" controll when used in Cubase SX. This could be something I'm doing wrong but when I used Kore as a Vsti the control mapping switched from this wonderful and overlapping "Kore" configuration which gives access to all the best parameters to a very bland map of the individual instruments in each Kore sound.
5. Only one instrument at a time can be routed to the headphone output. Not a huge deal but I assumed Kore would be more of a general soundcard whereas it seems to be mostly designed for monitoring.
6. There are lemons and I think I've got one. The main jog wheel catches slightly around the bottom of the revolution. Not a huge deal but for $450 it should be constructed properly. One of the four main arrow buttons just below the LCD seems to have been knocked or bumped leaving it slightly pressed all the time. The rubber stoppers on the bottom of the unit have all fallen off at least twice.
Yeah, I'm gonna stop here. I know there was more that I wanted to say (maybe later) but this thing is truly vast and I just wanted to get some of the basics out of the way. I'll try to get back to this later. Until then...
Cheers,
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| thesimplicity |
| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:16 am |
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virgil990 wrote: 2. Further, if you have previous versions of NI instruments installed alongside newer ones this can cause confusion. I had B4 and Guitar Rig installed as well as their second versions and this caused an amazing amount of confusion within Kore. So only one version, the newest one. |
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| virgil990 |
| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:17 pm |
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Hey simplicity,
I'll have to get back to you on that after I do further testing. I was basing that tip off the fact that when I had both versions of B4 and Guitar Rig installed Kore would automatically try to load the older version. An error message would pop up telling me to update B4, and Guitar Rig simply couldn't load the preset (if it was from v.2) and wouldn't process the signal. I'll do a reinstall of B4 in the next few of days, have Kore rescan the Vst's, and let you know what I come up with.
As for checking this thing out in a store I think you would be amazed at how quickly you would find your way around the software, it is incredibly intuitive, and if you're running Komplete 3 this thing is truly indespensible.
Oh, and I need to scratch #5 of my General Observations, routing to the headphones is possible with multiple instruments and presets.
Cheers,
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| PeterKirn |
| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:18 pm |
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Hey Virgil, I did talk to Native, and while the bad news is that the hardware becomes a dongle, the good news is that you can install KORE on an unlimited number of systems. I was afraid that they were going to do *both* hardware and software authorization.
The only problem with this is that the software still requires software authorization on a per-machine basis, and Native limits that to two machines. I know I'm not normal having two laptops (PC + Mac) and one Mac desktop, but it's still frustrating for those of us in this boat (though you can often reason with the manufacturer, even if you're not press -- I've tested this out).
I gues what bothers me is having so many different copy protection solutions, instead of one that you can sort of live with . . . as I'd grown accustomed to Native's relatively reasonable software authorization process. On the upside, this does mean I can have one machine with Kore plugged in, and another running some of the same software simultaneously (like Reaktor, connected via OSC), and move my Kore around without having to decide which machine will be the Kore machine.
But forget what I think -- how do the rest of you feel about this? |
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| macha |
| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:48 pm |
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i had a demo at a dealer yeterday. The use of kore appeals alot to me. layering , midi files use etc etc.
They could not show me how it would function within a sequencer like logic.
I wonder how kore shows up if you open automation. Do you see the parameter of every , within kore inserted instrument? That would be along listr. The NI guy could not give me an answer. he did not know....
I already work with a novation sl. adding a kore could be overkill but i realyy liked the software part of kore . i was very skeptical at first but i am slowly starting to see that this will be something i will really need in stead of want....The buildquality of kore and its design looks way better than the novation sl. Novation could use some better designers for its wonderful tool. |
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| PeterKirn |
| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:56 pm |
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What about the SL do you not like? (And which SL do you have?)
I'll be testing KORE with Logic, Live, etc. this weekend. Automation should show up -- I'll check. NI's rep should have known, as this is part of what they're pitching KORE as, something you'd run inside your DAW. I think they're just not up to speed yet. |
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| macha |
| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:02 am |
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don t get me wrong , i like the SL ( i have the 25) but i do not like its looks.
It works fantastic.
For kore I have the feeling that it s better to await thge transition to leopard and macintel . Too much problemetic transitions on the mac platform to conquer I think. NI has a timeschedule for the transition but I still rememeber the porting to osx and auvalidition , that took much longer than expected..... But after that I ll definitely be working with Kore. It definitly has a future that s for sure.... |
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| PeterKirn |
| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:21 am |
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| I wouldn't worry so much about the new OS / Intel transition. Porting to Intel is a lot easier than porting from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X in most cases. Obviously, if you already have an Intel Mac, you'll want to wait, but if you're running a PowerPC Mac there's no reason to delay -- at least not on that account. |
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