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| darjama |
 Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:20 pm |
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hey, anyone have any recommendations for syncing video with a live band?
My ideal would be to actually be able to beat match, taking a trigger from a kick drum and use that to syncronize a video of something rhythmic (a person walking for instance). I'm guessing that would be near impossible, so I'd settle for something that would let me change scenes seamlessly with a midi trigger. Any suggestions? |
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| madhatter |
| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:00 pm |
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| you want a VJ program like resolume or arkaos. Both allow the triggering of video, images, flash animations, etc either using MIDI or a PC's keyboard. you can use a variety of effects, loop, reverse video, and so on. very fun to use! |
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| Jaymis |
| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:13 am |
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If it's a midi kick drum you're definitely in luck, just rout it into your favourite VJ program and enjoy.
There are options for synching with sound within Resolume. If you can seperately mic the drum (or whatever sound source you prefer) you can set resolume up to trigger a clip when the bass reaches a certain level, easy peasy.
The problem you'd be facing is that without a blistering system there's quite a bit of lag between the sound playing and clip triggering, so if you're running it on anything but the new hotness you'll be half a beat behind.
This isn't as noticable with visuals as with sound - if the DJ's record is half a beat out lots of people will be noticing, but if the vision hits the screen late it's not quite so jarring. |
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| madhatter |
| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:50 pm |
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| darjama |
| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:33 am |
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so it does seem like without the fastest equipment syncing a kick drum with a video image isn't too feasible. If I'm just using a midi pedalboard to trigger scene changes, is there cheaper software that can do this? These programs seem like overkill for a simple task like that.
I wonder if I couldn't just configure vlc or some similar player to do this. |
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| michaeluna |
| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:37 pm |
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| If you want to spend some cash, get a MIDI Drum Brain and attach a Piezo trigger to the kick or snare of your drummer. I'm not sure what video programs accept MIDI inputs but I saw a guy last week using one of those little Oxygen keyboards to control his video output. Sorry if this is too vague, but it seems that such a setup would be an awesome, epilepsy-inducing way to synchronize the two. |
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| Jaymis |
| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:12 pm |
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| Most VJ programs accept midi inputs, and if you manage to find a program which doesn't you can use Bome's Midi Translater to turn midi into keypresses. |
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| darjama |
| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:33 am |
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I think the midi translator & winamp might do the trick. Using the VLC player, switching between videos in a playlist while in fullscreen caused the window to minimize when moving to the next video in the playlist. Windows Media Player brought up their controls when changing scenes. Winamp changed scenes more seamlessly.
I'm not sure if it's possible to do more advanced navigation, like picking from a list of tracks in the playist instead of navigating backwards and forwards, but we'll find out.
Thanks for your help! |
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| vizzie |
| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:27 am |
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what about using a tap tempo to control a program like Arkaos VJ?
if your midi board has a clock that can be controlled by tap tempo, you could just tap the beat you need, instead of depending on the drummer's kick.
in my experience, the kick works great as long as it's a 4/4 kick. once the kick starts to swing, break beats, etc, it's an unreliable source.
another approach would be to use a combination of Arkaos VJ and Ableton Live.
Ableton has great sequencing potential for video, plus it has a built-in tap tempo that could be routed to a midi-powered video software and that would in turn control the playback speed of video clips.
cheers,
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