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landfill
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:29 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 60
I really want to get into Puredata as it looks like a really great tool for audio manipulation/synthesis/etc. Unfortunately, I'm finding this tutorial really hard-going and can't seem to find anything else. I'm looking for something more music-focused, maybe with some how-tos or something.

Anyone know of anything that might help?

Cheers,
L.
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_object.session
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:05 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 45 Location: new york city/jersey city
does this help?

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques.htm

i haven't really had a chance to look at it. and you might have seen it already, considering it's on the same page. seems a little in depth, though. in that it's more that a programming manual.

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landfill
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:35 pm Reply with quote
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Hmmm...I did stumble across that a while ago, before I was really interested in Pd. It looks useful actually -- some good examples and stuff. Thanks.
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PeterKirn
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:38 pm Reply with quote
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I agree, the Pd docs (your first link) are a wee bit hard to follow.

But for some additional help, see this previous CDM post:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/05/05/diy-music-software-with-free-pure-data-pd/

and specifically Jim Aikin's intro tutorial:

http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/04/27/pd.html

It's pretty basic, but maybe it'll help you get past some mental roadblocks (I know what those feel like!)

I'm planning to finally get around to some work in Pd this month because I have to adapt some techniques from Max/MSP for a tutorial I'm writing so the results run fully in open source tools. I'll let you know if I find anything else of use, and maybe I'll get around to writing a tutorial here. What I'd really like, as a result, is a Max/MSP - Pd translation guide. It'll help people migrate, and, just as importantly, switch fluidly between the two. A lot of people these days are using a combination of both.
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landfill
Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:35 am Reply with quote
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 60
Thanks Peter!

I seem to be getting the hang of it now -- the best thing you can do with these things is to just play around, I find. The 'controls' are what I really need to get to grips with now, because I haven't been able to do any conditional stuff so far. The examples included with Pd are really good and explaining the concepts, actually.

Anyway, thanks for those links, I'll check 'em out.

Louis.
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hans
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:01 am Reply with quote
Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
A bunch of us have started collaborating on writing some intro tutorials. They are included as part of the Pd-extended packages, but are currently only in the test releases:

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

You can find them by going to the Help menu, then:

Browser -> manuals -> Intro
Browser -> manuals -> Sound
Browser -> manuals -> Visual
Browser -> manuals -> Networking

I'd love any feedback that you might have since they are definitly a work in progress.

Also, if you want to follow the progress of what we call PDDP (Pure Data Documentation Project), check out this page:

http://puredata.org/dev/pddp

Or join in!
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PeterKirn
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:22 am Reply with quote
Site Admin Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 822 Location: New York, NY
Wow, Hans, thanks -- that's terrific! Yeah, it's nice to suddenly see all those blank spaces filled in the manuals. Smile

Having some step-by-step tutorials should really help people out. Interestingly, with all the documentation Max/MSP/Jitter has, I still get lots of notes from people looking for tutorials, so too much information doesn't necessarily help people.

Also, right after my last post, I read this:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/05/29/streaming-suitcase-free-how-tos-on-audiovideo-streaming-pure-data-more/

These are especially helpful if you're interested in using Pd for streaming video and audio applications.

And Hans, you're teaching a workshop in NY this summer at Harvestworks, too, aren't you?
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landfill
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:00 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 60
Thanks Hans, they look really good. I absolutely love Pd now that I'm getting into it a bit more -- it's so easy to quickly realise your ideas when compared with a normal programming language, like C. It reminds me of Java in a way, what with all the pre-made objects you can use.
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