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| BassTooth |
 Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:02 pm |
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ableton live. discuss.
....first post!!!woot!. |
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| walkerbelm |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:12 pm |
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| You could be right, but its so MESSY sometimes. and I'm not into the arpeggiator..but you cant deny its totally revolutionised live electronic music. |
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| basstooth |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:09 pm |
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messy indeed. adds a certain chaos i think. chaos rules!
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:32 pm |
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I'm just waiting for someone to say Fruityloops!
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:43 pm |
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| that does it. I am ordering my mac boop pro monday. |
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| sdbrown |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:12 pm |
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walkerbelm wrote: I'm not into the arpeggiator..
What's wrong with Live's arpeggiator? I think it's great. Are you just anti-arpeggiator in general? |
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| WarpedEye |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:59 pm |
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Anonymous wrote: I'm just waiting for someone to say Fruityloops!
You know, a while back, I actually managed to make a whole conceptual soundscape album using FL Studio. Info about it and a download available here.
Man, but I miss Fruityloops/FL Studio, those good ol' days of fooling around without having any clue about what you were really doing.
Oh, and Ableton Live is fantastic for certain types of music (and live performing). Still prefer Tractor when it comes to DJing, though. |
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| Symbiotic |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:05 pm |
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| In the right hands, Fruityloops can be a great tool. Alas, like GarageBand, Acid, and many others before it, in the wrong hands it is far too easy to make really, really bad music. |
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| funnelbc |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:22 pm |
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Anonymous wrote: that does it. I am ordering my mac boop pro monday.
^ deliberate?
Love it. Mac Boop Pro! |
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| tristan |
| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:28 pm |
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WarpedEye wrote: Anonymous wrote: I'm just waiting for someone to say Fruityloops!
You know, a while back, I actually managed to make a whole conceptual soundscape album using FL Studio. Info about it and a download available here.
Man, but I miss Fruityloops/FL Studio, those good ol' days of fooling around without having any clue about what you were really doing.
Fruityloops/FL Studio is indeed capable of greatness. Everyone should check out Akron/Family's self-titled album, released in 2005. The whole thing was amazingly done in Fruityloops, or so I've been told. It's a great album, indie folk-ish album with tasteful electronic elements.
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| walkerbelm |
| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:38 pm |
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sdbrown wrote: walkerbelm wrote: I'm not into the arpeggiator..
What's wrong with Live's arpeggiator? I think it's great. Are you just anti-arpeggiator in general?
yeah it just seems a bit hit and miss, notes dropping out here and there etc.. |
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| PeterKirn |
| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:06 pm |
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I am very impressed by FL Studio; I haven't had a need for it myself but I think it's a really cool piece of software.
It's tough to pick an ultimate tool, really. Ableton Live wins for me as the most influential piece of software of the last 5 or so years, because it really changed the direction of computer music making and popularized laptop performance. And it's a rare piece of software that's really elegant and streamlined. That doesn't mean to me that it's the best or that it's for everyone . . . but it is unquestionably the most influential. Everyone is looking closely at what Ableton has done.
Max/MSP/Jitter I think deserves special mention for being so deep and flexible, so it would tie for me with Live on that count, and it likewise has really changed people's approach to software.
I think there's an easier question to ask, which is the greatest plug-in / soft synth of all time: that's easily Reaktor, because it's the one plug-in that lets you modify it to do whatever you want, from using fantastic out-of-box tools to going in and creating your own.
But this brings me to why I responded: I'd love to take some of your software superstars and make regular "Journal" entries for them on CDM. A single review or single tutorial rarely does software justice. The idea is to instead talk about software the way we use it, over time, on projects. All of these apps are candidates (including FL Studio), as well as some others (SONAR, Logic, Reason, etc.). I just need users. I think it's also something we could informally do here on the forum as well as on the site. Thoughts? |
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| sdbrown |
| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:58 pm |
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I think I would vote for Pd. This is probably not going to be a popular response. I have my reasons:
It's free. Holy crap, where can I begin? It's FREE, as in speech! Just yesterday I was writing a patch for the source code to make it do something strange. If you know how to read C, then playing with this thing is a lot like circuit bending. You can write anything with it. I saw a program called "slicer" for OS X but I didn't like how limiting it was so I remade the damn thing in Pd! Took me a while to replicate it exactly, but this was only because I kept making other cool sound toys along the way! Not only that, but if you install the Pd-extended version, you can start using GEM right away, and GEM is awesome. Pd/GEM provides worlds of fun for those of us on a budget (hey, you try going to grad school and being a musician, it's hard).
Behind that, in no particular order:
Apple Xcode
Jack OS X
Ableton Live (even the demo version is awesome)
I write the complicated stuff in Pd and then just recreate simple sequences in the Live demo every time I fire it up. Life is good. |
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| tristan |
| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:02 pm |
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sdbrown wrote: I think I would vote for Pd. This is probably not going to be a popular response.
sdbrown, I'm really interested in Pd, I've played around with it some, looked at some of the basic examples, but I feel like I'm missing something. What exactly do you yourself do with it? Any tips for me to get started?
-Tristan |
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| the83 |
| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:15 pm |
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MAX/MSP, easy.
But outside of that, Fruity Loops!!!! I hate to admit it, but I've made some of my best stuff using FL exclusively.
And Logic, of course. No Blow Tools for me. |
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